Minutes of the Business Meeting 13 June, 2023

Launceston, Australia

Present:
ACF President – Judith Jordan
ACF Delegate - Robbie Walker
CCCA Delegate - Chris Merritt
CFA Delegate - Kathy Calhoun
CFA Adviser - Rachel Anger
FIFe Delegate - Leopold van de Haterd
GCCF Delegate - John Hansson
NZCF Delegate - David Colley
SACC Delegate - Jan van Rooyen
SACC Adviser - Johan van Rooyen
TICA Delegate - Vicki Jo Harrison
TICA Adviser - Frances Cardona
WCF Delegate - Anneliese Hackmann
WCF Adviser - Cornelia Hungerecker
WCC Secretary/Treasurer Penny Bydlinski

Apologies:
WCC President - Eric Reijers
WCC Vice President – Cheryle Uren
FIFe - Annette Sjødin

Prenotice:
The WCC Secretary, Penny Bydlinski advised the delegates prior to the meeting that in the absence of Eric Reijers, Judith Jordan as the President of host body ACF had been invited to conduct the business meeting until after the elections when the new Vice President would take the chair.

ACF President, Judith Jordan opened the meeting at 09.00 a.m.

1. Opening

ACF President, Judith Jordan welcomed all those present back to Australia, and acknowledged the presence of Professor Leslie Lyons who will be addressing the meeting at a later stage. Before starting the meeting, Judith acknowledged the passing of Sandi Gemmel, ACF’s delegate to WCC for many years in February 2022. She asked those present to stand and observe a minute’s silence in memory of Sandi.

2. Attendance of the Delegates

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, called the roll of the delegates present as listed above. CFA and ACF asked permission to record the meeting and these requests were approved.

Penny WCC Secretary then addressed the meeting. The past three years have been difficult for everybody including WCC. I sent out correspondence, however the response had not been forthcoming. The Executive discussed the feasibility of holding Zoom meetings, the difference in time zones made it difficult, with some delegates having to be up at unreasonable hours, in addition there had been no proposals or suggestions from members, this should have been led by the members rather than the WCC Committee. The voting process is straight forward however when it comes to the Secretary & Treasurer the constitution states the positions are appointments, previously this has not been an issue, unfortunately for the past two years the Vice President, Cheryl Uren has had serious health issues and has been unable to take an active role in the decision making, decisions on the appointments had been left to Eric and herself. Cheryle has been very supportive over the years; her absence left a void in the decision making and discussion of the appointments.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, Cheryle contacted me recently, there was further discussion regarding the appointments and the suggestion from Eric & Penny that Robbie Walker take on the role of Secretary with Penny continuing as Treasurer was endorsed by Cheryle. Penny advised the meeting that if she was to continue as Treasurer there would be no further expense to WCC, the decision to step down as Secretary was due to her failing eyesight, this would not affect her continuing as Treasurer. The matter of appointments may have to be discussed further should more than one person want to come forward for the position.

I have been in the position since the inception of WCC. It has been a lovely period seeing how WCC has grown from the first meeting, it has been a great privilege to see it evolve over the years. Whilst WCC may not be able to do much in a practical sense, the fact that the major organisations are now meeting and talking together means that each organisation knows more about how each other operates as well as the valuable contacts and friendships made over the years, as an organisation we can discuss different matters and problems that may arise, it was a very different world prior to the inception of WCC. These are primarily the assets of the congress which have grown since the idea such a body could exist and was driven initially by FIFe and Alva Uddin. In the beginning WCC did not have the sponsorship arrangement with Royal Canin, this came later after John Blythe the then President contacted Royal Canin whose assistance has been invaluable, and it is through this partnership both financial and practical support that allows the members expenses of attending the annual meetings to be defrayed. I would like it recorded that WCC expresses their sincere gratitude to Royal Canin for their generous support over the years.

3. Leslie Lyons Presentation

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski asked Leslie Lyons to come forward, Leslie thanked the meeting for the opportunity to talk to them.

Leslie Lyons, I recognise that WCC doesn’t have any regulatory oversight over any constituency in the cat fancy nor do the groups they represent. I am the Vice President of the International Society of Animal Genetics (ISAG) an organisation that has existed since the 1950’s to help coordinate the standardisation of testing in all animals, I introduced cats into the picture with ISAG 10 -15 years ago. ISAG is to assist to standardize processes in order that information can be shared regardless of where it is in the world. It began with horse blood typing and has now moved onto to DNA typing.

One of the things they undertake is standardise the genetic markers that are used for parentage testing, ensuring that results are the same regardless of which laboratory the results come from. Other groups have now come along which are more commercial-based services and not associated with universities and are more interested in the bottom line and less so in genetic counselling and the rapport with the breeder/owner. ISAG is moving forward to try to make things consistent to enable interpretations of a genetic test such as PKD or HCM that regardless of where the results come from, the information is consistent to be shared.

In addition to my role with ISAG, I am on a committee led by Dr Jerold Bell who attended the seminar at the weekend due to his interest in the cat fancy. Dr Bell leads the Hereditary Disease committee for the World Small Animal Veterinary Association. Neither of these associations have any regulatory control but can only provide advice.

I want to take the opportunity to update WCC on some of the group’s discussions and that the group initialise discussion with WCC and that there is an open rapport before anything comes out of any of the committees.

Leslie Lyons statement).

4. Approval of the Agenda

ACF President, Judith Jordan, may I have a show of hands to approve the agenda. This was approved.

5. Establishment of Breaks

These were established as:

Morning coffee break 10.30 am Lunch break - 12.15 pm Afternoon tea break 3.00 pm

6. Approval of the Minutes of the Business Meeting in 2019

Moved: ACF, Robbie Walker

Seconded: GCCF, John Hansson, Approved unanimously

The 2019 minutes were circulated for signatures.

7. Matters Arising from the Minutes of the Business Meeting in 2019

No business arising.

8. Elections

ACF President, Judith Jordan, Eric Reijers has indicated in writing that he is happy to be renominated as President.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski acknowledged this was correct.

GCCF: John Hansson, I have a concern not about the nominations themselves but the fact there are many new delegates, who don't know the other delegates. I have no problem with the Secretary or President, I am concerned about the other positions where the meeting is voting people who are not necessarily known.

NZCF: David Collie, the rules generally require somebody to be nominated and seconded and so they are then able to be elected.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, I am not familiar with how WCC does this. But if you've only got one person who is nominated then they are elected. Does the meeting want to go through the process that someone nominates someone seconds.

SACC: Jan van Rooyen, we all received the email from Eric stating he was willing to restand, there must also be a proposer and seconder, there may also be other nominations from the floor. If Eric is the only nominee, then he is elected, should there be another nominee, a vote will be required.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, do we have a proposer.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, we need to be consistent with the outline of the Constitution, whether this is a constitutional mandate.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, the Constitution does not ask for a proposer or seconder.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, the WCC constitution is silent on that.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, there are several constitutional matters which need to be looked at.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, does someone want to nominate and someone second.

FIFe: Leo van de Haterd, I have several nominations from FIFe proposing Eric Reijers for President. Rachel Anger for Vice President and for the appointments Robbie Walker as Secretary and Penny Bydlinski as Treasurer.

Vice President: Judith Jordan, noted, we will deal with the President first, can someone second the nomination.

WCF: Cornelia Hungerecker, seconded

ACF President, Judith Jordan, Eric is the only person nominated, are there any other nominations from the floor? Eric is elected. Next, the election of a vice president for a period of one year.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, the reason there are different terms is because according to the Constitution, the President is elected in uneven years, the Vice President is elected in even years, the Secretary and Treasurer are also appointed in even years. This is so that the whole Executive is not changed in one year. That is why consequently, the President is due to be elected this year for a two-year term and why the other positions are only one year.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, we have a nomination for Vice President, Rachel Anger.

FIFe: Leo van de Haterd, yes Rachel,

Vice President: Judith Jordan may I have a seconder.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, CFA seconds Rachel.

WCF: Anneliese Hackmann, nominates Jan van Rooyen for Vice President.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, we have two nominations, I need a seconder for Jan

ACF: Robbie Walker, seconded Jan as directed.

Vice President: Judith Jordan we'll have to move to a ballot

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski I would like Marion Cooper (Observer) to pass the papers around. The constitution is silent on what happens if there is a second person nominated for a position so this would be ordinary practice.

GCCF: John Hansson, what is to be written on the paper, just the name?

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, just the name.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, the constitution states all officers shall be elected from among the delegates of the member organisations of the appointed suitable qualified persons and delegates term of office each chapter shall be elected for two years, or until the AGM of the year in which the original term expires. My only question is this an election or is this simply an appointment.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, it's an election, this process is the only way I see of doing it correctly. It's not these positions that are appointed.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, it's an election, the Vice President and President are both elected the appointments are Secretary and Treasurer and that's quite separate in the constitution.

NZCF: David Collie can we go through who was nominated and has it been seconded. I haven't heard who has been nominated or has it been seconded.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, we have two people nominated and two seconded.

NZCF: David Collie who was the person nominated because I couldn't understand it.

ACF President, Judith Jordan, Rachel Anger and Jan van Rooyen. Two independent people will now count the votes.

The votes were counted by two of the observers and the result handed to the chair.

Judith Jordan: Thank you to both candidates for nominating, Jan please take the chair.

Acclamation WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski thank you, Judith very much for chairing the meeting

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen thank you everyone for the vote of confidence.

9. Appointments

Item 9.1 Appointment of a secretary for a period of one year, it is an appointment, as stated earlier in the letter from Eric. may I have a show of hands to appoint Robbie Walker as the new Secretary, congratulations Robbie.

Item 9.2, Appointment of a Treasurer, any discussions around Penny Bydlinski being the Treasurer for the next year? May I have a show of hands to appoint Penny Bydlinski as Treasurer, congratulations Penny.

As I have been elected Vice President, Johan van Rooyen will become the delegate for SACC. Moving on to the proposals from the Australian Cat Federation.

10. PROPOSALS

ACF Proposal 1

That item 7.8.4 of the constitution be amended to read:

I 7.8.4 Executive Session of the Annual General Meeting:

1. The Business Meeting will may go into an “Executive Session” in which only the delegates, advisers and officers may be present.

2. Matters to be dealt with in this session may include:

1. Admission of new members

2. Matters of discipline

3. Sensitive financial matters

4. as well as Any other matter as determined by majority vote of the delegates at the Business Meeting.

ACF: Robbie Walker

The ACF board put this motion forward. The current Constitution makes it mandatory that we go into Executive Session, ACF proposes change to make it optional. There is a precedent in 2015 due to weather conditions outside there was no executive session. ACF believes therefore it should be optional, rather than a mandatory requirement.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, ACF Motion One is a change to paragraph 7.8.4 - Executive Session of the Annual General Meeting. Point one and two, basically say that they want to change the word will to may, with 2.3 insert the word Sensitive and with 2.4, ACF wish to remove as well as and amend it to Any other matter as determined by the majority vote of the delegates at the Business meeting.

ACF: Robbie Walker moved the motion

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, called for discussion, being none, he asked for a show of hands for acceptance of this proposed change.

Passed

ACF Proposal Two,

That WCC formulate written guidelines for the "Open Meeting” to assist future hosts in organising this as an integral part of the seminar, ensuring expectations can be met.

ACF: Robbie Walker, there has been some discussion within ACF that in past meetings, there are no guidelines which define the Open Meeting and its aims and objectives. ACF suggests WCC develop a basic document with dot points to help any future WCC hosts

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, is this something you want to discuss now, with points being raised or something that we need to address as an action point for WCC to deal with in the next few months only.

ACF: Robbie Walker If we could get a vote in favor of that, then the action would be for WCC to discuss it and ask for information from the member bodies.

Vice President, Jan van Rooyen, is everyone in favour of having such a discussion, moving forward and the format of the open meeting, all in favour.

We may need a subcommittee that can run with this in the next few months. May I have some volunteers to sit on the sub-committee.

Action: Robbie Walker (ACF), Kathy Calhoun (CFA) and Chris Merritt (CCCA) volunteered, everyone in favour of these delegates.

II. Matters for Discussion
ACF Discussion
Item One

How do other Cat Organisations deal with new breeders, having trouble purchasing breeding stock from established breeders who quite often refuse to sell entire animals to unknown people or is this not an issue outside of Australia? Do other organisations have programmes in place whereby they assist new breeders?

TICA: Vicki Jo Harrison, TICA has a mentorship program where we match up people interested in either cats to show or breeds to breed with people that are willing to work with them. TICA has the same problem in different parts of TICA with people not wanting to share their lines and share their cats. TICA has set up a committee to oversee this.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, CFA has an unofficial approach, where if a new breeder is known there may be someone in the general area that may work with a similar breed or the same breed, that they try to match them up. This is not a formal process, the other part of the topic is that quite often you don't know that this person exists that may be struggling, unless somehow it comes forward.

NZCF: David Collie, NZCF has just put in place in the last twelve months that someone who wants to become a breeder must become a member of a club, they must be nominated by an individual. Generally, it has been a friend or someone that was in the club already. Additionally, they now need to have a mentor that has had at least three years’ experience with the breed, who has agreed to support them, as well as two other people that are willing to assist them. There is a real problem with so many closed catteries, breeders are forced to Australian livestock.

GCCF: John Hansson, GCCF uses show buddies, whereby we try and keep up with who's new to showing. The trouble is, the mindset of some when trying to introduce people to groom them, there are barriers to overcome, which is understandable why they will only allow some people to have their cats. Without knowing their background, it's much more difficult, which is why we concentrate on how buddies. It's just so people who are interested in showing can be paired with somebody who's a bit more experienced.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, how do you convince a well-established breeder to sell to an unknown breeder because that's what they say. We can’t force the members or their registration bodies, to force a breeder, to sell to anyone. Maybe via the mentor when the new breeder proves themselves responsible, they can in conjunction with the mentor discuss with the breeder who's got the specific lines. It is happening everywhere it's happening in South Africa. There are just breeders that won't sell to new people. We can't have a rule, but with proper communication via the mentor with a breeder, a breeder may change their mind.

NZCF: David Collie, one of the major parts of the problem is jealousy, these are my lines and if you breed with them then you may beat me, the issue then arises with a line that has no diversity, which is an issue.

ACF: Robbie Walker, whilst WCC can’t make a ruling they can suggest that member bodies talk to those that have a mentorship program and develop their own mentorship program.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, could there be another approach where breeders who work with new people are somehow recognised by their organisation, these incentives may encourage more breeders to mentor newcomers.

GCCF: John Hansson, we do have a double-edged sword here, because, again, we've worked with somebody who must be a member of a club for a certain period before they can apply for a prefix. but then people got to interpret who says it’s your line? We're in a classic situation from the point of view of people taking ownership of certain individual cats, they put two cats together, that doesn't make it their line as they have used cats that somebody else has bred.

Vice President, Jan van Rooyen, some years ago, WCC issued statements 2018, “The World Cat Congress does not support the new development of breeds based on mutations or characteristics that have a negative effect on the welfare of the cat”. And in 2015 “WCC does not promote nor approve the presence of wild feline species in connection with a cat show”.

Does the meeting consider WCC should put out a statement saying, we propose, or we support mentorship for new breeders along that line,

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, we encourage breeders to support other breeders

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, it's important that WCC make a statement that we support member bodies running mentorship programmes. Does everyone agree that WCC puts out a statement moving forward, majority agreed with one abstention

I suggest we leave that to the Executive to develop the statement, email it to the delegates for approval and distribute it to the members to place on their websites.

ACF Discussion Item Two

World Cat Congress

a. breed comparison page, how can we ensure the content is updated, that currency is maintained

b. members news, how can we ensure the information is updated and information shared.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, I regret to say I've had nothing from CFA, WCF, and FIFe everybody else is fine.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, it was the initiative of WCC that all the standard of points for the different associations and just the comparison of certain points on one website, it was agreed upon. That is the information we need.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, will ensure that the information for CFA is provided and then I'll follow up to make sure that now

ACF: Robbie Walker will send the template.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, Penny sent me the template, I will follow it up

WCF: Anneliese Hackmann, the general meeting must accept was accepted the changes then we can send it Vice President, Jan van Rooyen, do you have a date when you will be finished?

WCF: Anneliese Hackmann, no, the next general meeting isn't until July next year. Vice President, Jan van Rooyen, also FIFe?

WCC Secretary (Penny Bydlinski), yes, will speak with Eric. We have some breeds that are only recognised in one organization. Should they go on the website as well or not? That is up to the members to decide what they want. We have only put up the ones that are known to everybody.

NZCF: David Collie, I think that maybe this is something that should be done every two or three years when you probably have new breeds, obviously not going to go back and do old ones, it can be done when you have new breeds. I mean, that it would be good if it were a requirement preparing the time when you have new breeds coming in.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, I think David the issue is we don’t know what new breeds are accepted in all organisations, that needs to come from the member.

NZCF: David Collie, if we were asked can you update any changes, because if it doesn't come from somewhere, it gets overlooked.

ACF: Robbie Walker, it's not just about new breeds, it's about existing breeds. There is a template and there are breeds that have not been uploaded, such as Sphynx, Siberians & Siamese. If you go through, you need to provide the missing breeds and advise WCC of any new breeds.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, we have existing breeds that have their standards changed, and there are several, every year. Those changes need to be part of the delegates roles going forward and make sure that those changes are updated, as to new breeds or breeds that are not accepted by other associations. I support the idea that all breeds, no matter if they're only recognised by one or two associations, this is a resource for people to get information about looking at the new breed standards.

GCCF: John Hansson, I think it should be a separate listing for breeds that all organisations recognise and for those breeds that some organisations recognise could be at the end. It is currently in alphabetical order. There are some breeds in alphabetical order that some organisations don't recognise. So, can’t that go as a second issue.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, John so you are suggesting that we split the list in two, the first one alphabetically with breeds recognised by all organisations and another alphabetically where only some organisations recognise the breed.

WCF: Anneliese Hackmann, we have a committee that looks at the organisations to see what is not accepted in our code. Everybody can look at the website for the other organisations.

ACF: Robbie Walker, the actual breed comparisons list indicates which organisations recognise a breed, and which don’t. If an organisation recognises a breed and they are the only one, it lists the other organisations as not recognised

GCCF: John Hansson, the difference is that we recognise certain colours, or patterns as colours or patterns, whereas other organisations, recognise them as breeds, that becomes more complicated,

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, I don't think if it is looked at correctly there is any problem at all. The way it is set out, what is the problem?

GCCF: John Hansson, there is no problem but there are some breeds which all organisations represent. and some breeds, only recognised by certain organisations.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, those breeds are all up if they're not recognised, they’re not recognised. Unless there is a new one, at this point. Last year, it was decided that if any organisation accepted a new breed, they should inform us all. This has not been done, I do throw that back on the members when they do accept a new breed, they should let us know. And as far as the website is concerned, wherever there's a breed that we have the information on, it's up there. And if it is only recognised by two members, it doesn't matter. I don't see the problem

GCCF: John Hansson, it’s not a problem, it's to make it simplified for people.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, the idea is that you look at the breed and then you've got all the organisations underneath and then if it's not recognised it says, not recognised.

GCCF: John Hansson, if you're represented by a certain organisation to see what breeds your organisation does cover.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, but that's totally different list isn’t it, because you must get this from the organisation that's not what this is about. This is about the comparison.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, if we could make the completed template downloadable, people could download it and you can sort it and do whatever you want to do with it. You could sort it by colour, you could sort it by date, you could manipulate it not to change anything, if you want to use it and present it to someone at a breed meeting

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, you can download it with either Excel or word that you can play around with yourself I guess I think we need to speak to the webmaster to see what it will cost us.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, it might also help that if you download the changes to your breed and make the changes and send it back to the webmaster, they don't have to go through all the work

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, can we get a quote for the change to the website, and we can then make the final decision. Are you happy that we go with that route? All in favor okay Agreed

The second point from ACF is the members news. There is some news from members but it's not consistent, not all members are contributing. Can we have your news on a regular basis, anything you want to tell the world.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, for some time there's always been a problem, Chris Lowe has in the past overseen this and she did not always have input from member bodies.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, can this be followed up on quarterly basis, send out a reminder note to member bodies asking for their news report.

NZCF: David Collie, can we have it minuted that member bodies are required to update their breed standards as well as advising of any new breeds.

SACC Matter for Discussion

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, we'll start with the SACC agenda item regarding all these new organisations we are seeing that are being established around the world. Being a signatory for our judges Council, I see a lot of new CV’s coming seeking approval of judges belonging to organisations, that are not part of WCC. The first one was the Global Feline Alliance, their members belong to associations, clubs, and judges’ panels more in Russia, South Africa, and South America. These clubs and panels do not belong to any registration body. So, I don't know what their standard of points are. It makes it quite difficult to approve the application.

The second organisation is Loving Cats Worldwide, some of their judges were students in some organisations, and have now got All Breed status in the new organisation which has only been established for one year,

SACC asks if you received a judge’s application from one of these organisations, how would you deal with it? In WCC, how do we accept these associations and similar applications for guest judges?

GCCF: John Hansson, I can speak on behalf of one of the judges on LCWW because she is only a professional judge on one list, GCCF So that's that means basically, they're not qualified to give CC's, she can now give titles to every cat virtually in the show.

I was also asked to find out from each of your organisations what are the qualifications to judge with your organisation if you are part of WCC, or one of the independent clubs mentioned earlier.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, I know there are some members here, I think WCF is one of them, you only see judges that are first guest judges that are linked to WCC. I don’t know if everybody has that rule, SACC certainly doesn’t.

WCF: Anneliese Hackmann, in Europe, a lot of independent clubs, our club must ask the board. When a club wants to invite an independent judge, we ask for their documents for their exam, and then we control everything, because we are judging in categories. And sometimes if you have only an exam for three shorthair breeds, they can't judge at our show as shorthair judge as they aren’t qualified to do all the breeds. If the judge doesn’t want to send the documents, they can’t be invited.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, is it the physical exam to see how they did or just report on

WCF: Cornelia Hungerecker, the written examination to confirm that they are qualified for the category they have been invited to judge.

ACF: Robbie Walker, we don't list anywhere who's judges from overseas we accept? They are predominantly from WCC member bodies. However, if they were from an independent association in Europe we would check with Penny or another person who may be able to assist in our enquiries.

NZCF: David Collie, we wouldn't recognise anyone who isn’t WCC, or associated with them. However, the person who does almost all the judgment appointments for ANCATS lives in New Zealand.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, if you look at the Global Alliance Feline website, you will get a better understanding of who's on there.

NZCF: David Collie, are we putting the cart before the horse. My question is, why are these people applying to open an international organization, I don't know anything about two of the organisations? Why are they going this way and not coming into the fold, that would be the first question I would be asking and then you need to know what standards their judges are.

TICA: Vicki Jo Harrison, we have a judging committee, firstly we don’t ask for judging assignments, we must be invited. The committee does all the research to make sure guest judges are qualified, most of the guest judges are from a WCC member body, we have a stringent process that they go through. The reason LCWW is in existence is because we did not accept two GCCF judges for a TICA show, which is when. the person who started LCWW left TICA.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, if you don’t investigate on the independents website there is no history of these judges and what they are qualified to judge or when they qualified and that is the issue.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, CFA has a similar process that clubs invite judges, on the website there is a list of associations that CFA will accept guest judges from. If the organisation is not on that list the clubs must complete an application for consideration.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, FIFe have judges that are not necessarily for a WCC member body. There are long existing clubs in Holland which have very reputable rules, and reputable training. It is up to the individual country member who they want to use. If it is not a FIFe judge it must be approved by the board, it certainly does not have to be a WCC member. FIFe judges must get permission to judge for another association.

The meeting then adjourned for morning tea.

After morning tea, the meeting went into Executive Session

Following the Executive Meeting the Business Meeting continued

12. Matters Arising from The Open Meeting CORIN Gene

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, from the discussions we want all associations to have the same descriptions of the Corin gene. There are already associations calling the Sunshine, Flaxen Gold. The main thing for WCC is to drive the initiative to standardise the terminology for breeds which have the Corin gene. We will need another sub-committee that knows genetics, to propose a name and a basic SOP for the colour/pattern to be circulated to the members for approval in their own association. Who would like to volunteer to be on the sub-committee.

CFA: Rachel Anger volunteered

TICA: Vicki Jo Harrison volunteered and mentioned Adriana Kajon who is on the TICA genetics committee.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, you are welcome to use some other members in your organisation who are not here. Are the delegates happy for the sub-committee to utilise whoever they need to draft a proposal to WCC.

GCCF: John Hansson, I think Leslie Lyons said that it had to do with mice & humans therefore if the gene is already recognised, we therefore must come up with a name.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, it is the name but the also the description of the colours which is important.

Leslie Lyons, keep in mind that the gene is called CORIN, like the dilute you don’t name the dilute color Melanophilin which is the name of the gene. So, the gene name you can call it anything that you want as far as colours/patterns, historically you don’t use the gene name for the colour/pattern.

NZCF: David Collie, in New Zealand we used to have AOC or any other breed which would have to be on display for a year beforehand. I think we need to be a lot more proactive. If there are things like this happening, we need to have a standard long before cats are on the bench.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, Rachel & Vicki Jo what date can you give us your feedback, six months from now?

TICA: Vicki Jo Harrison with your permission, I can engage our genetics committee.

Dominant Blue Eye

ACF: Robbie Walker, I think we need to discuss the Dominate Blue Eye (DBE), cats are being bred in Europe and breeders for instance in Australia are looking at importing them. Adriana Kajon advised that there could possibly be some health effects relating to this gene.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, what we need is a proposal to registering bodies about DBE, not telling them to accept or not accept, outlining the Pros and Cons of having a cat with DBE in their breeding programme.

Silver Gene

Leslie Lyons announced the Lyons Feline Genetics Laboratory at the University of Missouri will be offering genetic testing for the Silver (Inhibitor, I) locus for domestic cats. The test will determine if cats are homozygous (2 copies) or heterozygous (1 copy) for the dominant silver DNA variant. The testing may also help to determine if cats have a recessive silver DNA variant. For this reason, testing will be conducted in collaboration with the UC Davis Veterinary Genetics Laboratory and additional information will be collected from the cats to assist this effort.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, there was a question yesterday as to what happens with the ancestors in the pedigree. Does WCC need to draft a guideline for member bodies on how they approach the situation.

ACF: Robbie Walker, I don’t believe you can retrospectively change the ancestors of the cat DNA tested for silver.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, if a silver cat suddenly appears, it will be that one of the parents was a very low-grade silver, the breeder couldn’t see it. You can’t change the colour descriptions of the ancestors.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, the guideline should state that you can change the colour of the cat DA tested, however you don’t change the ancestors. Do you want that to be the guideline from WCC? Robbie, can you formulate the guideline and send it to the Executive prior to circulation to the member bodies?

ACF: Robbie Walker yes.

13. WCC Future Meetings

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, do we have an offer to host the WCC meeting and Seminar in 2024. WCF: Anneleise Hackmann, we would like to invite the member bodies to Bali in 2024.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, will this include a show WCF: Anneleise Hackmann, yes

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, we have a proposal that next year the meeting will be in Bali hosted by WCF.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, do we have dates.

WCF: Anneleise Hackmann, we don’t have dates, what are the best dates for the members. FIFe: Leo van de Haterd, the dates used to be around March

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, Robbie will email the delegates for a list of dates they are available in March or April for the meeting in Bali.

ACF: Robbie Walker, we need consider, FIFe’s General Assembly is the end of May, CFA is the end of June, TICA is September, ACF is beginning of June and CCCA is November

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, so March or April appears to be the best months. Any provisional offers to host it in 2025?

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, our board meeting is next week, we could propose this to the board for 2025.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, it is usual to have host members two or three years in advance, however because of COVID this has not been possible. So, 2024 in Bali hosted by WCF. 2025 possibly CFA. Can we have a provisional host for 2026.

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, Eric was hoping to get one of the European clubs to host.

14. Any Other Business

WCC Secretary: Penny Bydlinski, this is the booklet, Guide to Hosting the WCC weekend. Do we need to revise it and then circulate to the ember bodies.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, WCF may like to do it as they are hosting in 2024 and the booklet contains everything.

WCF: Cornelia Hungerecker, read out a letter regarding pedigrees, titles, and communication between WCC member bodies. (Annex 2)

WCF Letter, ).

We suggest that each WCC organisation provide an initial contact email address with a maximum response time of two weeks. This address could be posted on the WCC website or provided to the Secretary.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, I want to clarify what you are asking, it is in two parts. The first part is that people are members in more than one organisation are they officers in clubs and on committees of more than one organisation or do they just show in more than one organisation?

GCCF: John Hansson, we don’t recognise other titles, the other titles can be recorded at the back of the cats name, so it doesn’t get confused with the same title from another organisation.

Vice President: Jan van Rooyen, Anneliese the other part of the letter was that about when WCF writes to another WCC organisation you don’t get a response? Robbie, can I request that you get the official contact details for each member and that their names are on the WCC website. WCC members then know who to contact initially.

CFA: Kathy Calhoun, is it possible to get a copy of the letter

15. Meeting closed 1300

Judith Jordan – ACF President
Jan van Rooyen (Vice-President of WCC in the Vice President):
Robbie Walker (Delegate for ACF):
Chris Merritt (Delegate for CCCA):
Kathy Calhoun (Delegate for CFA):
Leo van de Haterd (Delegate for FIFe):
John Hansson (Delegate for GCCF)
David Colley (Delegate for NZCF):
Johan van Rooyen (Delegate for SACC):
Vicki Jo Harrison (Delegate for TICA):
Anneliese Hackmann (Delegate for WCF):

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